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  • October 25, 2005 at 9:42 am #394

    Can any one give me a recommendation between choosing a multi-press Power Rack or a Power Cage.

    Here is the Power Cage in question.

    Specs

    Freedom of movement combined with adjustable racking and safety positions make the Power Rack a must-have for those who want to strength train without compromise. The Body-Solid Power Rack is designed to work with all types of benches and engineered for extreme workouts. Heavy-duty 11-gauge high tensile strength steel frames feature all-4-side welded construction and oversized industrial strength hardware. Electrostatically applied powder coat finish resists chipping and scratching through the most brutal routines

    And here is the multi-press Power Rack.

    Specs

    Designed with an extra-wide 4-point stance, the GPR370 is a rock-solid performer that features a 7° reverse pitch that accommodates your body’s natural lifting path. Lift-off and safety positions are right where you want the so racking the bar is always comfortable and predictable. Perform squats, calf raises, lunges, dead-lifts, upright rows, and many, many more power building exercises. For increased workout capacity, add any freeweight bench and do bench, incline, decline, and shoulder press routines. If you are looking to bulk up and build power, or simply to tone your muscles and increase performance, the Multi-Press Rack is definitely the foundation of the ultimate freeweight system.

    From what I can see the Power Cage has the chin up bar advantage. The Power Rack can also be fitted with a make-shift barbell chin-up bar but its height is probably too low for weighted chin-ups.

    October 25, 2005 at 9:52 pm #1803

    I believe the powercage would give you more training options than the powerrack.

    Can’t think of anything you could do in the powerrack that you couldn’t in the powercage.

    J

    October 26, 2005 at 9:47 am #1804

    i have read in iron-man a mass building routine designed just for the powercage and has proven great results for the Mr olympias of old, those guys were still big.

    October 27, 2005 at 3:57 am #1805

    Yah caint do Iso Tension work on that free standing rack.
    Yah caint do box squats / bench squats safely either.
    Yah caint do bench presses with the stop bars an inch above the chest well either, as the rack only has larger measures between settings. Yah need a continuous incrementing setting, say every inch or inch and a half to be able to set the stop bars to as many different heights as possible.

    Thats what I think of those F#$@%$# free standing racks, they just dont hack it. DA

    October 27, 2005 at 6:42 am #1806

    Thanks for the suggestions, you guys gave me very valuable advice. This place is the place to be if you want the true answers 😀
    I’m going the Power Cage route as you have all have suggested. Thanks again.

    October 28, 2005 at 9:00 am #1807

    @Buffer wrote:

    Thanks for the suggestions, you guys gave me very valuable advice. This place is the place to be if you want the true answers 😀
    I’m going the Power Cage route as you have all have suggested. Thanks again.

    i would too 😀

    October 29, 2005 at 3:47 am #1808

    Buffer, I’ve been looking at the same power cage but have not been able to find one around here, or rather I probably don’t know where to look 🙄 …could you please tell me where you are getting yours from?

    October 30, 2005 at 7:04 am #1809

    @sage wrote:

    Buffer, I’ve been looking at the same power cage but have not been able to find one around here, or rather I probably don’t know where to look 🙄 …could you please tell me where you are getting yours from?

    If I were you I would steer clear of the cage that I mentioned above. That is the Powerline PPR178 power cage and it is not a good cage. The cage above only has 9 holes, so it might be useless to you if you want to use it for bench presses and your body size is incompatible with the 6inch increments. That was the one I was going to get before I did more research on it. There is a company called Orbit Fitness in Western Australia that sells it for $630, I’m not sure if they are located in other states but there are about 7 stores here in WA.

    If I were you I would buy either a Powertec, BodyCraft F40 or if you go the Body Solid route I would only get a WPR82, but if you decide to get the Body Solid GPR78 don’t settle for anything less than $600.
    Powertec is the cheapest but it is extremely well made and includes Dipping bars which are normally sold for $75 seperately.
    Also I wouldn’t pay over $1000 for a cage if it didn’t come with Lat attachments.
    Also you might need to buy a 7ft bar is you don’t have one already or already using olympic weights.

    Just for kicks if you have the resources, then you could consider getting the Titan. Probably best in the world.
    http://www.szultka.com/english/conan.htm

    October 30, 2005 at 8:10 am #1810

    Buffer, thanks for the advice and info given and that TITAN is some serious stuff, but above my resources 😀

    I know that a power cage comes highly recommended but to keep it as cheap as I can, I’ve been considering to get a good quality bench with a full range of hight adjustments, with a seperate adjustable squat rack, which is adjustable to do dips. One 6′ barbell and dumbells with 125kg of weights. The equipment is really steardy and I will make a minor alteration to the equipment to be able to do chins. This will set me back about $700 without the modification for the chins, which will be simple and I expect it to be cheap.

    I hate myself sometimes for being so thorough or trying to be anyway. But I need to get started and will probably have made a decision by Tuesday this week. Also I would like to get hold of the equipment locally, so I can simply collect when need to.

    Thanks again and good luck to you. I hope we make the correct choices!
    I will put up a pic of my setup when it is all done.

    October 31, 2005 at 1:21 pm #1811

    @sage wrote:

    Buffer, thanks for the advice and info given and that TITAN is some serious stuff, but above my resources 😀

    I know that a power cage comes highly recommended but to keep it as cheap as I can, I’ve been considering to get a good quality bench with a full range of hight adjustments, with a seperate adjustable squat rack, which is adjustable to do dips. One 6′ barbell and dumbells with 125kg of weights. The equipment is really steardy and I will make a minor alteration to the equipment to be able to do chins. This will set me back about $700 without the modification for the chins, which will be simple and I expect it to be cheap.

    I hate myself sometimes for being so thorough or trying to be anyway. But I need to get started and will probably have made a decision by Tuesday this week. Also I would like to get hold of the equipment locally, so I can simply collect when need to.

    Thanks again and good luck to you. I hope we make the correct choices!
    I will put up a pic of my setup when it is all done.

    That sounds like a good set-up, the squat rack will definitely be invaluable. If it doesn’t have safety’s on them then you can buy two saw-horses and place them on either side when you are doing the really heavy weights. Beleive me you don’t want to be caught stuck at the bottom of the squat without a spotter the same goes for bench-presses.
    Before you make a final deceision I would give your local Fitness Generation a call and see what they can do for you.
    http://www.fitnessgeneration.com.au/
    There is branches in every state and they stock high quality products at prices that are similar to the U.S (unlike other fitness stores which mark-up their prices by 250%)

    Good luck and train hard.

    November 3, 2005 at 3:58 am #1812

    Buffer, what shall I say 😆 the decision was made on Tuesday as I said, but come Wednesday, I changed my mind again 😆

    I have decided to bite the bullet and spend double what I mentioned previously to purchase the power cage (decided on a BodySolid). I am not sure of the model right now, but it is sturdy and the adjustment intervals are roughly (from memory) an inch apart…far more than the pic you posted above. The safety bars on the sides are easily adjustable and have two holes in each, where poles can be inserted to do dips (is not included, so I will buy two lengths of thick walled pipe). So this can easily be adjusted to a suitable hight. I will be getting it either tomorrow or early next week. I will be paying about $620 for the cage.

    The reason I have decided to go this route is that my son is also going to start training and as you mentioned, for those times that we may have to train alone it will be much safer!

    I also purchased:
    1 x 7′ Bar
    18″ Dumbells
    120 kg of weights
    BodySolid Bench that can also do declines

    All totalling to $1400, which is a lot more than I budgeted for but I think is the right thing to do.

    Anyway, we are starting our training today with what we have and looking forward to it.

    I should be able to put a pic up next week, then you can give me your comments.

    November 3, 2005 at 6:15 am #1813

    @sage wrote:

    so I will buy two lengths of thick walled pipe.

    Sage, just make sure that these will hold if you drop 120kg on them!

    J

    November 3, 2005 at 9:47 am #1814

    @sage wrote:

    Buffer, what shall I say 😆 the decision was made on Tuesday as I said, but come Wednesday, I changed my mind again 😆

    I have decided to bite the bullet and spend double what I mentioned previously to purchase the power cage (decided on a BodySolid). I am not sure of the model right now, but it is sturdy and the adjustment intervals are roughly (from memory) an inch apart…far more than the pic you posted above. The safety bars on the sides are easily adjustable and have two holes in each, where poles can be inserted to do dips (is not included, so I will buy two lengths of thick walled pipe). So this can easily be adjusted to a suitable hight. I will be getting it either tomorrow or early next week. I will be paying about $620 for the cage.

    The reason I have decided to go this route is that my son is also going to start training and as you mentioned, for those times that we may have to train alone it will be much safer!

    I also purchased:
    1 x 7′ Bar
    18″ Dumbells
    120 kg of weights
    BodySolid Bench that can also do declines

    All totalling to $1400, which is a lot more than I budgeted for but I think is the right thing to do.

    Anyway, we are starting our training today with what we have and looking forward to it.

    I should be able to put a pic up next week, then you can give me your comments.

    Excellent purchase, I think everyone would agree that you made the best decision. The BodySolid cage has a life time warranty on it so you can’t go wrong with that. Good idea to buy the BodySolid bench as well, it is much sturdier than the standard benches you get around and can support a hell of a lot of weight.
    18″ dumbells- Good idea I need to get some too as you can’t put enough weights on the standard ones when you get stronger. Should be able to fit 7.5Kg x 4 on each side for a good 60Kg (good for shrugs).

    One thing you should also get is a calf block, you can you use a concrete block or a block of wood. It should be no less than 50cm wide and about 10cm high so you can go through the range of motion for calve raises. Its incredibly easy to do calf raises when you have a Cage.

    BTW did you purchase your equipment all through Fitness Generation, I’m looking forward to the pictures of your set-up.

    November 6, 2005 at 10:07 am #1815

    Dr J, thank you, I will make sure that whatever I use for the dip bars are up for the task.

    Firstly I need to apologise for some false advertising here regarding the BODYSOLID cage, or shall I say what I thought was the BodySolid cage…I don’t know how I got this wrong but the cage is actually a BodyCraft cage (F430), sorry about that guys.

    Anyway, with that out of the way, the cage has arrived and it has been put together and I am still mighty pleased that I made the decision I did. Thank you Buffer for your imput mate, greatly appreciated.

    So as promised here is the cage setup with the BODYSOLID bench 😆 …
    http://www.storage4all.com/uploads/94db7ea7b8.jpg

    Sorry guys I don’t seem to know how to get this pic to display in this post so try the link 😕

    Also on this following pic you can see the holes I was refering to where the rods need to go through for the dips…
    http://www.storage4all.com/uploads/ebf4364653.jpg

    I have noticed though with both my son and I training that a second set of dumb-bells will be needed, but all in time 😀

    Thanks again guys.

    November 8, 2005 at 3:51 am #1816

    Looks great! Im getting a rack soon as I can save up for it

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