My old man.

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  • December 1, 2005 at 7:11 am #420

    My Dad is an old weight trainer from way back who has never believed in supplements of any description. Anyway he has just recently started again 3 times a week and is finding he is buggered all the time. He runs also.

    Just to give you a background here he has always done at least 1 workout and 1 run per week since forever so his body is used to training. His question to you all is what could he do to kelp with this fatigue, supplement wise?? He is also quite stubborn so the supplement would have to be hassle free. I’m his son so he is obviously sceptical about any advice I give him, so please give me some ideas. Oh, by the way Mum has mentioned something called Endura?? What is this for a start?

    HEIGHT:5′ 11″

    December 1, 2005 at 8:29 am #1919

    Maybe his body will adapt to the 3 day workouts in time, I’m not sure about the Endura though…are you sure you mum doesn’t mean Viagra πŸ˜‰

    Sorry KM you don’t really want to hear that about your parents πŸ˜€

    December 1, 2005 at 8:34 am #1920

    your old man is funnily enough ‘old’ so he might find the increase in volume too much to take just yet, maybe he should gradualy increase the volume and try not to do to much. Also at his age he can usually get testosterone replacement from his local gp ( i believe it usually comes in patches) and that can help some what in the amount of work he would be able to do.

    Watch his diet and make sure he is not deficient in anything especially total calories but im sure you know this. If he drinks a lot then maybe he needs to lay off the alcohol a bit. And get plenty of rest. Not much else you can do but my first point is probably the most important.

    December 1, 2005 at 9:38 pm #1921

    Thanks Dave, terestris tribulis and a good protein were my answer to. These two together should at least get him started again. I have ordered both. Thank you.

    December 9, 2005 at 5:35 am #1922

    What about some things like,

    Glucosamine for healing his joints,

    One big thing that I think athleates use is Glutamine, I think this is really important if you are over training.

    Another one may be the old humble Vit C, that helps reduce muscle soreness.

    Everywhere I have read is that Tribulis is rubbish. If you want a product that actually has studies behind it that prove it boosts Test levels then ZMA is the no frills one, You would want to buy it from America like I do other wise you will be ripped off in Australia Try comparing that price to Australian sellers even with postage πŸ˜† This might not be what he neads though?

    I undestand what you mean by no fuss, maybe best thing to d would be get your dad to add 5-10 grams of Glutamine to his post workout drink. Does he take a post workout drink, this could help with his recovery. And take 2000mg of Vit C a day.

    Another thing might be making sure he does not over train Kinmassive, when you get older you need a bit more rest.

    Let us know how it goes.

    December 9, 2005 at 12:38 pm #1923

    I have noticed over recent talks with him lately that he drinks bugger all water. So now that he’s training again he obviously needs more of it and he’s not consuming the required amount.

    I know myself that if I don’t drink at least 4lt per day on average then I’m totally wrecked come that afternoon. So he reckons he’s gonna give that a go also.

    And yeah he knows he getting old, hence the training. In about six months he and the old girl are getting a huge yacht and sailing around the globe for a couple of years. So he wants to be fit and strong for the trip.

    Lucky bastard!!

    December 9, 2005 at 11:46 pm #1924

    @kinmassive wrote:

    Lucky bastard!!

    Don’t you mean ‘Hard Working Bastard!’ πŸ˜‰

    Apart from getting proper nutrition sorted, the best thing the ‘mature’ trainee can do is to avoid bustin’ their balls (or female equivalent for gals), every time they hit the gym (Dave’s point).

    Young whipper snappers can get away with overdoing it in the training room because they heal faster when they break.

    Plus I’ve found that when aching joints bother it’s better to back off the weight and concentrate on making the lift more difficult in other ways such as a long pause at the bottom, perfect form, etc, etc. Then slowly build up in the weight used.


    December 10, 2005 at 12:11 am #1925

    He says he doesn’t have any joint pain as I too reccomended the above. As far as working to hard in the gym is concerned I reckon you’re onto it also, he’s still benching 100kgs for reps 😯

    Anyway I’ll give it a couple of weeks and see how he goes. πŸ˜•

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