Fats and carbs consumed together
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Im constantly told with my diet (from people) that i shouldnt eat my nuts, and or “fats” with my carbs as it does something that makes u put on fat.
what the hell, can someone explain more on this? Ive looked around on the net abit and cant seem to find much on it, links aswell would be good to shut me up 😀
My diets’ floating around here somewhere, and ive mixed my fats and protiens together in as many meals as possible becoz i read it makes an ideal anabolic envioment. But then i hear i cant mix fast with carbs, but i gotta eat carbs! and i dont want to pack my daily amount of carbs all around my training time, that would be toooo much carbs in one meal.
Have you tried t-mag? One of their writers was a Protein and carbs/ Protein and fats expert.
Mixing fats and carbs after your workout will slow down the absorption. How much carbs are you eating a day? It may not be a bad thing to have 50% or more of your carbs around the workout if you are watching bodyfat levels.
Yeh, that t-mag.com bloke is Dr John Berardi. He has produced an enourmous article output over the last 2 years on food for bodybuilders. Excellent and informative reading that will enlighten you about carbs and fat.
Lots of carbs and fat together is an energy overload, that means the excess energy causes fat storage instead of feeding the muscles. So the idea is to take protein and carbs with a little fat, or protein and fat with a smidgen of carbs, otherwise it will make you tubby-quick. DA
interesting, coz if u checked out my diet, im going against what they’ve said, and ive put on about 1.5″ on my waist in 3 months 😕 Which is a hell of alot better then last bulk
1.5 inches on your waist? that usually isnt where you want to put on size.
What happens is that insulin concentrations increase in the blood due to carbohydrates being ingested. Now when insulin is increased it promotes storage of carbohydrates in muscles and in adipose tissue (fat) aswell as amino acid uptake into muscles. So as you can see after exercise this is a good thing to get nutrients into the muscles where it is needed. Now without exercise you are basically spiking your blood sugar and sending carbs to the muscles which are about full and that then goes to the fats cells and all that fat you have just ingested also gets sent straight to the fat cells. SO… you have a major increase in adipose tissue.
When you eat just fat and protein you do not spike your blood sugar levels so the body goes about as normal without major adipose gains (unless you are REALLY overeating). Eat Protein and carbs leads to a spike in blood sugar, then a release in insulin and carbs and aminos get sent to the muscles (good for breakfast where you need replenisment and after exercise).
Ok i hope that helps explain it to you.
hey wow, that helps alot
yeah the inchs on the waist thing just helps me determine how the fats going. i’ll think i will reconstuct my diet abit more around whats written above.
just; the carbs-get-stored-as-fat-at-night apply after ive trained? becoz i reacon i could shift more carbs to postworkoutmeals (and replace the lost carbs for fat at those meals), just i eat them at around 6pm and 7pm at night.
=UPDATE=
ok, i shuffled my diet around, its still the same amount just reshuffled to suit what Dave has pointed out to me. Most importantly, how does it look?
1: protien shake + flaxseed, 1cup oats
2: 300gms beef, 80gms almonds < — "more fats no carbs"
3: 100gms sweet potato, 20gms almonds, 300gm chicken < – "more carbs, less fats"
4: 1 cup oats, tuna
WORKOUT
=spike shake=
5: 250gms sweet potato, 200gms meat
6: 200gms meat, veggies, 100gm sweet potato < — "carbs taken from earlier meals"
7: CC shake + flax oilThe Post-Workout window is best spoken of as 3x sort of phases of carb sensitivity (according to Dr berardi).
The first window where you could eat almost anything is for 2 hours ish after the workout, some people take 2x meals in this time to really squeeze in more food.
Then next is a 6 hour phase/window after the workout, here you could take food every 2 hours or so.
Then before returning to normal carb sensitivity, the 3rd phase is around 24 hours after the workout, in which you can still feed up good, before switching to a more carb controlled diet before the next workout.
At least thats what he said, and I believe his tech lab tests proved it also. DA
The Post-Workout window is best spoken of as 3x sort of phases of carb sensitivity (according to Dr berardi).
The first window where you could eat almost anything is for 2 hours ish after the workout, some people take 2x meals in this time to really squeeze in more food.
Then next is a 6 hour phase/window after the workout, here you could take food every 2 hours or so.
Then before returning to normal carb sensitivity, the 3rd phase is around 24 hours after the workout, in which you can still feed up good, before switching to a more carb controlled diet before the next workout.
At least thats what he said, and I believe his tech lab tests proved it also. DA
ok cool. my diet looks gold then right? becoz ive put 2 solid carb meals after training now
ive put fats as seperate as i can. 80gms of almonds at meal 2 isnt too much of a fat hit is it?
Oils have double the energy compared to protein or carbs, so you do have to be careful when calculating how many calories per meal when using oils as a main ingredient besides protein.
You’ll need access on the web to some sort of dbase, then look up almonds fat content in grams to find out how much energy in calories.
Thats fat grams * 9.1 = calories.
DA
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